User talk:Chrisjones
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[edit]Prince (Pictorial Views)
Thanks Chris - Unfortunately commitments in Scotland (a photoshoot and an AmDram show I am involved with) means that I will be unable to get to North Wales for this event or the RhE Subscribers Train (the same weekend) this year. --Stewart 22:09, 5 March 2007
[edit]Photo Credits
Chris - I do not propose to add any new information whilst reformatting. With respect to the Double Heading page, all the information provided was already there. As regards whether you seek credit or not for your photos or not that is a matter for you. However I suggest you consider at least some mention on the image pages associated with your pictures even if it is only for release purposes.
The appropriate licence tag is:
- {{PD-self}} means you are releasing the photo for use with no restrictions.
As you do not wish credit, the following tag is probably not appropriate:
- {{GFDL-self}} means they have to acknowledge you as the photographer.
Stewart 22:26, 5 March 2007
[edit]Photo Credits (2)
Chris
One of the things with the World Wikipedia is about accreditation, sources, and copyright. With our new software, we are going to endeavour to keep that required info. I am sure, you and other contributors, would be outraged if suddenly one of you photos appeared elsewhere to someone else's personal financial benefit.
I appreciate we have over a thousand images from the old system, which have no accreditation. This is unfortunate, and no easy way to rectify. At least now we can keep a track for future input.
I have made a suggestion whereby any photo uploaded has a title that starts something like "ABC YYYYMMDD ......." where ABC is the authors initials, and YMD is the obvious date of picture. this will at least start to ident the owner. You can appreciate that Prince over the years has been the star of a number of photos in varying locations by various people, and we cannot call them Prince1, Prince2, etc.
--Keith 22:28, 5 March 2007
[edit]Loco availability
Stewart - Can we lose the date off the list completely and just keep it up to date. Otherwise it'll end up like SZBs mods log with a load of out of date rubbish that none will want to read!
Chris j
- Inclined to agree. The loco pages will indicate the history of the modifications, rebuilds, etc. It would also remove the risk of multiple entries conflicting. Just like the HNB SSR. --Stewart 17:48, 17 April 2007
[edit]Copyright on R.J.J. PLummer photo
Stewart - this is part of the FR archives - hence copywright is granted through Adrian
Chris
- Appropriate tag will be added on this basis. --Stewart 23:53, 27 April 2007
[edit]Princess
Chris, I have just added the Princess pix, you uploaded, to the Princess Pictorial page.
It does pose a problem in pix one on that page, caption Palmerston and The Princess at the FR Duffws station around 1870. you can see a protective fairing behind the driver. by pix 2 caption The Princess at Harbour station around 1871., the fairing has gone - just questioning the accuracy of dates??? --Keith 22:27, 28 April 2007
[edit]Dating early Englands
Are well Keith - Peter Dennis & I believe the first cabsheets were removeable. Look at the photo of Princess at the F&B station in Blaenau c1880, or the c1878 view at Dinas.
Verdict - don't date by the cabsheet!
John Owens photos at TYG can be dated by the telegraph wires as being 1871. It is assumed he only made the one visit. Frith can only give me a c1870 on the Duffws picture. All dates I put in the Wiki I have discussed with Adrian
Chris
[edit]Evening Editting
Chris - I have an excuse editting at this time of day - it is still daylight here (in SW Ontario), however as I am listening to Classic FM it has gone 1am in the UK. I guess a case of insomneia (spelling!!). --Stewart 00:18, 21 May 2007
[edit]Picture of Portmadoc 1875
This is a John Thomas picture - probably taken at the same time as the Duffws pictures of JS, ME, LW, LG & WP - hence more likely to be 1880-82 - but I can't prove it!
Chris J - 25/7
- Thanks Chris - Traced through to the source and put in the attribution to John Thomas. Date is another matter.
- Having a day off today having just finished a period on night shift prior to heading to the FR tomorrow. --Stewart 15:12, 25 July 2007
[edit]Picture on Princess Page
Chris,
Wern't me guv - Kfw is Kim Winter - but I am sure he wont mind - it does stick out on both pages, and as said all relevant details are on the image page. I will try and contact Kim directly before I leave for Port Sunday AM Meanwhile removed the Template used and reduced to more manageable size - hope this is ok for your purposes. not tried to format - will leave for you --Keith 17:44, 4 August 2007
Chris - The Template is one of mine. I do agree with your comment about the copyright - which can be left on the Image page. In reflection I will adjust the template accordingly. --Stewart 18:29, 4 August 2007
[edit]Not able to upload pictures
Sorry about that Chris. A testing failure on my part. If you try again, it should now work --Peter_Harrison 09:44, 10 October 2007
[edit]Prince on the WHR
Hi Chris, That's a superb photo of Prince at the summit on the WHR! - Tony_E. 19:46, 29 October 2007
[edit]Flying Bench photos
Hi Stewart
In the interest of removing clutter, can I remove the side on view after restoration? The colour is poor and the more recently added 3/4 view at the same time(also by you!) is much better?
Chris
[edit]Map 3
As you will appreciate, they are as recieved from Graham Isherwood himself
I will forward your comment and see what he comes back with. They have been on wiki for some time, and I wonder if the book they are from has been corrected???
--Keith (talk) 2008-1-7T17:30:20
Correction - not ye though - just realised what they show.
Map 1 shows around the 1830-1840 mark, Map 2 around 1870,
Map 3 shows any alterations after 1880 - even additions to 1933 - therefore its a mix of changes (inc 1899) - mainly to the quarries which it was for showing. Some dates are shown. Dose this sarisfy your point??? --Keith (talk) 2008-1-7T17:39:59
[edit]Dinas Branch 1976
Chris
I have now placed the two cleaned/colourised Boyd maps on the all the pages. Before I started I ensured there were no errors on the originals. This shows the line crossing A.Barlwyd below the station? You said "above" - are you saying something is out of place??
And isnt the GyP extension on the 1899 route, and wasnt this the planned 1975 **(I dunno)
--Keith (talk) 2008-1-14T14:55:36
[edit]Dinas Branch above Dinas
Do you want copies of photos from the archives for this Keith? I have an old one ( c187?)and the Bleasdale looking up the valley
ChrisChrisjones (talk) 13:54, 16 January 2008
Chris Jim Hewett is leading on this rewrite, I am just reconfiguring pages from info already there. Adrian is also doing a section. Suggest hold off for a week but will pass message on --Keith (talk) 2008-1-16T16:54:20
[edit]Date for 1880 link line for triangle
The 1899 Dinas Branch diagramm shows the link line being 1888-1899 instead of 1880-1899. I'm a pain arn't I!
No! - a b***dy good sub ed that does read/check for mis-spells -= Keep it up by all means --Keith (talk) 2008-1-18T16:14:06
[edit]NWNGR Beddgelert Loco
Edit as you think fit, Chris. Dont know where original was from or who posted. Kim did the photo. Its not from "online", and not NGRISC where I just had a quick look. --Keith (talk) 2008-1-24T14:00:24
[edit]Palmerston Photos
Chris,
The reason I had altered the photos on Palm front page was of the number we have. I am sorry that I removed yours, but this decision was based on the fact a head on shot occupying less than 10% of the photo didnt seem to warrant inclusion on the front page. Similarly the picture of the Renown, being the main focus, was moved to the gallery on the pictorial views.
In consequence, you have now removed a full shot working on the Farm completley, and duplicated photos on the gallery, which I am trying not to do.
Comment??
--Keith (talk) 2008-2-1T13:54:13
- Chris
- reinstated the removed pix - but to gallery. Also played with gallery display, altered to 3 width and remove references to Palm in caption on every image!! - I think it is obvious, and makes it less cluttered. --Keith (talk) 2008-2-1T15:55:37
[edit]Little Wonder
Have looked at reformat and rather than do it myself .......
Suggestion only a
immediately after header picture - wording is going up the side on very samll font print. Otherwise - Nice Keith --2008-2-19T01:50:43 (UTC)
[edit]Merddin Updates response
Morning Chris
- - A response to your comments (written before any amends done though)
A few views on what you have done in creating a summary table for Merddin, take them or leave them!
- - always welcome - mostly taken aboard without qurestion
The heading of the picture being black writing on dark blue - its difficult to read. Maybe it would look better in black on white but with a heritage font?
- - Agreed - have problems getting right colour and being different to other table blocks - this will change
Merddins conversion to oil was completed in April 1973 (FR Mag refers)
- - just going on what the text said - now amended both
Merddin did not have a 9 year overhaul 1996-2005. It was left as too difficult until 2000 then the Society raised funds and many different volunteers contributed to its eventual rebuild. I'd leave that phrase out completely and just note it was rebuilt by 2005.
- - amended to reflect
Length - I wouldn't put dimensions in here as they have changed over time - it has now grown to 32 ft 6 "
- - The Boss (aka Peter Harrison) set the base one up and indicated more tech details would be an idea. BUT as you say they have changed over the life of the engine(s)
"Powered by" - why not just state "Fuel" (it is powered by steam!)
- - grunted, sorry granted - just my terminology which gets a bit carried away at times
On the historical side I will eventually this year decipher the Williams books for ME but JS is next. If you want the Bleasdale picure in then let me know
- - historical pix always welcome
--Keith (talk) 2008-3-5T07:10:48 (UTC)
[edit]Policeman
I remember that C-y-B was the home of the Line Supt. T. Henry Hovendon from around 1860. Just rereading the entry for him just brings it together
Hovenden - employed by FR from 1841 - CyB built app 1860 for him as Line Supt. By 1884 (date of BOT return) is classed as General inspector.
Me thinks he was more of a Cheif Guard, and the BoT return was just a sop to say the FR had its own police force, like all the other railways.
It has been broached on group before (Sept 07) but more as to if the powers vested are still valid!
--Keith (talk) 2008-3-15T17:06:06 (UTC)
[edit]Location updates
Evening Chris
I am currently undertaking to ident all stations on F&W with a OSGR and Lat/Long. About 75% done as an offline list. I will be putting them into the info box on each page .... for a good reason
If you look on main wiki at say [1] you will see the co-ordinates in the info box there as a link. Clicking on them takes you to a mapping option, and thence to various maps. (some of which leave a lot to be desired.) We have the possibility of doing this on our wiki, and having the data there ready will be good planning.
Last night (Wed 23/4) I went through main wiki and corrected the locations of those I found - a number were well off the mark. If you look on Google Earth, the location for Harbour (a purple dot) is shown as being the far end of the Tax office!!! Boston Lodge Halt is located up the hill directly in line with the cob!!! I assume the corrections I have done will percolate through eventually. In the mean time, load the KMZ file in the e-group files section for the larger picture!!
--Keith (talk) 2008-4-24T19:31:59 (UTC)
[edit]Image Corruption
Chris
I had a look, an hour later, and found no problem. I dont understand why you thought to reload the picture - we now have 2 copies - perfect (for 80yr old pix) at Image:SickTal.jpg and Image:WPandTal-TyB.jpg. The only difference being your WP&Tal version is slightly darker/contrast higher.
I can only think your machine was running out of memory and giving you erroneous problems. I have just placed the two full size copies here and again at different sizes for examples (which can be deleted later)
Both appear ok on my machine - i.e. no errors
--Keith (talk) 2008-5-12T00:32:15 (UTC)
Chris - I've taken a look and there doesn't seem to be a problem on my PC. If it happens again, could you right click on the page, select "View source" then save the HTML. Once you've done that, right click on the picture, select "Save Target As..." and save a copy of the picture. If you could then send both the picture and the HTML to me, I'll take a look and see if it gives any clues as to what is going wrong.
Thanks --Peter Harrison (talk) 09:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the update Chris. Does that mean you are on an Apple Mac using Safari? --Peter Harrison (talk) 09:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit]Asterisks
Chris,
I have always done the second line *Date xx *Photo xx format. It was originally to space a new line when using a large format description. It has just continued. Occasionally, I have occasionally started Bolding either the marker or the data i.e.
- Date: 2 Apr 2008 *Photo: Keith
- Date: 2 Apr 2008 *Photo: Keith
--Keith (talk) 2008-7-27T22:45:47 (UTC)
[edit]Loading Gauge
Good Idea, Chris. However, even though I have met and spoken to Fred on a couple of occasions, I dont know him that well. I will, however, seek him out next time down, and try for the pair (WH as well!) (That is assuming they are electronically available) --Keith (talk) 2008-8-27T12:26:08 (UTC).
[edit]Spammer
Chris - ignore it - only blocking the IP will do it -have emailed Peter - but not in --Keith (talk) 2008-9-14T21:32:57 (UTC)
[edit]Ellis Lewis
Hi Chris, No, according to the Census I have the name correct and he has a brother John living at the same address. I pointed this out to Adrian some while back as he put the photo on the cover of HGJ a few years back.
Jim
[edit]Jim
Edited above as it screwed. Please dont leave a blank at begining of line - it puts the linr in a box that went way off screen --Keith (talk) 2008-12-9T09:52:31 (UTC)
[edit]Thomas Pritchard II
Chris, I have changed the wording slightly to make it clearer. It wasn't helped by Keith moving some key words. Do you think it reads OK now? I will probably edit the page again later as I think I may have more information on him.
Heritagejim (talk) 18:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
[edit]Problems uploading pictures
I'm aware of the issue. It is another problem created by our hosts when they "upgraded" their servers. I told them exactly what the problem is and how to fix it 9 days ago. It took them a week of inappropriate responses before they finally accepted that I was right and agreed to fix it but they have given no indication as to how long this will take. I have completely lost faith in our hosts and will be moving the site to a new host asap --Peter Harrison (talk) 12:30, 11 December 2008 (UTC)