Bogie Coal Wagons
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Hudson Bogie Coal (also known as Bocoal) wagons (Robert Hudson, unlike the FR, used only one "g"), with wooden drop doors on either side and wooden floor. Mounted on Hudson bogies. Used as part of the S and T Department works trains. Most are fitted with a handbrake working on the bottom end bogie.
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[edit]Wooden Bodied
[edit]Wagon 63
Wooden sides, ex Smiths (of Crisps fame)Nocton Estates. Fitted with handbrake and vacuum piped for running in passenger trains.
More information on no 63 was given by John Dobson in an E-Group posting. He wrote:
- "Some weeks ago there was a brief discussion of my theory that the ex-Smiths Crisps No.63 - the one with the centre drop doors - was a rebuild of a WDLR van.
- I've now had the opportunity to measure No.63 and can report that its underframe is 20'6" long (the same as an ambulance van) whereas 'D'-type wagons had underframes only some 17'8" long it is also 5'6" wide compared with the 4' 9.5" quoted for a 'D' wagon.
- It is known that Smiths had a number of ex-WDLR ambulance vans, but that they tended to overturn on poor track and were dumped out of use as a result. It is entirely possible that, when the system required additional/replacement open wagons, some of these vans were converted to open wagons using ironwork from 'E' wagons (the bogie well wagons with centre-drop doors in the sides). It would have been easy to cut new planks of appropriate length for the sides.
- Incidentally, the diagram of the ambulance vans in Davies's 'Light Railways of the First World War' shows the sides as coming down outside the frames, so the frames would be narrower than the 6'0" shown as the width (6' 4.5" over the sliding doors)
- I think 63 is a converted ambulance van."
- At Smith's this waggon was No 3. Source: The Licolnshire Potato Railways - Stewart E Squires 2nd edition Page 67
Nocton Estates had 12 Ambulance vans, used for transporting sacks of potatoes. Each van had sliding doors. As the sacks jammed against the doors the estate office started by changing the doors to hinged outwards. The ultimate reconfiguration from covered van to open wagon is well within the changes made by the estate workshops.
[edit]Wagon 65
Formerly carrying concrete batching plant, now dismantled. Ownership transferred & now part of the Moseley Railway Trust museum collection.
[edit]Wagon 67
Flat, ex-weedkiller wagon. Ownership transferred & now part of the Moseley Railway Trust museum collection.
[edit]Wagon 68
Though un-numbered, "its Hudson waggon number is 68. Bo-coals and locoals are the same thing with all steel construction. (CGM) " Boston Lodge 15th October 2005 (Kim Winter)
[edit]Wagon 71
Unbraked, bogie open, ex LBLR
[edit]Wagon 72
Handbraked, bogie open, ex LBLR
[edit]Steel Bodied
Numbers above 72 are all allocated to STEEL bodied Hudson wagons- see Locoals
However, the OLD No.73 was a WD underframe and this was taken into carriage stock to go under No.39 tourist carr - I suspect that this may be one of the ex-LBLR underframes. Although this underframe maybe from one of the Hudson Toastracks that lost its body work during the 1920s.
[edit]Acknowledgements
With thanks to research by Dr. Peter Jarvis and Adrian Gray